oil change for "new" bikes

[compmoto]

my KTM owner's manual, said I needed to let my dealer perform the first oil service on my bike. I did this , and didn't realize, that Motorex oil is 22.95 per container(quarts?) and was $150. for the service! including OEM filter. WOW! OTHERWISE the factory warranty is void...? ! ?! man o man, KTM is looking out for their dealers.... I normally use Amsoil products, and the oil is approx. $8. /qt. retail price... is Motorex really that good? AND where is it manufactured? Amsoil is : American Made Synthetic Oil, hence the name. Input here would be greatly appreciated. Oil always seems to cause a stir of emotion, especially since it's so important.... I know about "flat-rate" pricing for the aforementioned oil service, dealer has to profit as well. But since the dealer has specified MOTOREX oil, I'm a bit peeved. Oil is NOT ,just OIL. I'll deal with oil changes , my way, from here out... my bikes , don't blow up from oil issues.... thanx for the good products, Amsoil...

[RideOrange]

In buying a KTM obviously you aren't looking for the cheapest two wheeled transportation anyways, so I wouldn't sweat spending a few extra bucks on the oil. Motorex is manufactured in Switzerland and is the factory fill product on all KTM's and is developed with KTM engineers specifically for KTM bikes.
http://www.motorexusa.com/prod_detail.asp?id=137
For how often we have to change oil, spending an extra what $20-30 a year on oil is cheap insurance that you are protecting your motor.

[maybektm]

im sure the manual dont say you have to use a certain brand name oil ..no way...because if it did they would have to supply the oil for no cost thats a law.... and as far as bringing the bike back to keep the warranty....im sure you herd that word of mouth...because i doubt its not in writing in the manual or on the warranty paper work...just save the oil recites ..biggest gaf there is in the motorcycle world

[dspain]

I heard that there were problems with motorex and clutches in the bigger thumpers My dealer uses and told me to use Motul it is a bit cheaper but havn't had any issues since they have switched.

[bajadog]

I used redline in all my KTMs.

I never had any dealers change oil for me, of
course I have not had any warranty issues either.

[Amsoil Dealer Group]

I think you need to check your owners manual again... Sounds like a European Manual.... In the US and Canada, if the Service is required to maintain Warranty, they must pay for it.

They cannot void a warranty for use of other products that meet the Specs put forth unless they are excluded by Name in writing under the warranty.

Google Magnuson-Mos Warranty Act

Many Dealers pull, or try to pull the wool over their customers eyes by telling them things will void a warranty...

If they say Motorex or XYZ oil and filter is required to maintain the warranty, they must pay for it....

Bob S.

[dspain]

Bob S / Amsoil dealer

This is taken from the Manual

Warranty
The Service work specified in the “Lubrication and Maintenance Schedule” must be performed by an authorized KTM workshop. This is the only place that has the qualified technicians and the special tools required for the 990 Super Duke /R. Be sure to have the workshop verify all service work carried out in the service manual to avoid losing your right to claim under the warranty. The warranty or guarantee shall become void for damage and consequential damage caused by manipulations or conversions to the motorcycle.

The fuels, lubricants and liquids specified in the Owners Manual or automotive fluids with equivalent specifications must be used in accordance with the maintenance schedule.

The brand of oil used is only a recommendation by KTM and yes this is a European manual..... This is a KTM forum

Interpret it how you want, if your dealer tells you it isn't covered under warranty what choice do you have other than get rid of the ride or fix it regardless what oil you use. If we wanted to fight this in the courts I'm sure the lawyers would charge more than our mechanics.

[Amsoil Dealer Group]

In the US, they must follow US Law... It does not matter where the Vehicle is manufactured.

Where an OEM can force the issue is with a Dealer. They can Demand that the Dealer use Only Approved Parts and Products and in some cases it is in writing in the Dealer Agreement.. Been there, Signed it..

Bob S.

[bajadog]

My manual states the following about oil changes.

[Amsoil Dealer Group]

Originally Posted by bajadog

My manual states the following about oil changes.

Yes sir.... That is it... If they were to specify their fluids and filters or, a Specific Brand to maintain the warranty in the US and Canada, they would have to supply them Free of Charge.

Thank you for taking the time.

Bob S.