That’s an insane amount of things that went wrong sounds like a lemon law bike to me.
I’m VERY sorry to hear about your experience! What are the odds that both of our bikes were lemons?I can't say much to long-term reliability when my short-term experience has been less than impressive.
Love at first ride on my 2019 new 790. Updated from my one-owner 2006 SV650S.
That was almost a year ago.
Since then, I still rate the ride as fantastic, having racked up 11K kms, including a 4K km touring holiday.
However, this awesome riding experience has proven more costly in time, registration&insurance downtime, convenience and stress than I could have anticipated in a machine in its 3rd year of production.
And that's quite apart from being dicked around by the dealer in various ways in the process.
So, in the last 11 1/2 months, here is the work done so far under warranty to address ongoing engine cutout issues, other fuelling problems, plus other parts failures :
- Keys recoded
- Fuses replaced
- ECU values reset
- New ECU
- Throttle bodies
- Clutch switch
- Coolant hose clips
- Worm clamps for main coolant hoses
- Head gasket
- And KTMA picking up the tab for the recent service (except the oil, which we paid for because the dealership doesn't use Motul), for my patience.
Now, the cutouts are still occurring, and we've just discovered it appears the thermostat housing has sprung a leak.
So, while I'm glad KTM Australia are doing all they can to help find the cause of the main problem, I can see the second half of this warranty disappearing before my eyes.
Like BuddhaBiker, I am questioning the rigour of the R&D and the resources going into factory solutions post-production.
Again, this bike was built in the model's THIRD year.
I have a Duke 890R with about 4000 miles and, so far, no issues. It is a very impressive bike to ride. But, these constant reports about issues and more issues is a bit disconcerting. I really like reliable bikes that I don't have to worry about. With that said, the quality of the riding experience is on the top of my list.I’ve also ridden and considered the Aprilia Tuono. I thought the handling was telepathic…much more nimble than my Super Duke. However, the forums also show too many issues for me. The new Speed Triple is also having “teething” issues, according to the forums.
The pattern seems to be that Euro bike manufactures focus on outright performance, at the expense (pun intended) of reliability. It seems that they don’t spend enough time testing the dependability and reliability before releasing to the public (to be their beta testers)
So, maybe when the MT-10 gets an overdue refresh…. I REALLY liked the demo rides I’ve done on the new MT-09. They’ve improved it A LOT, but it still had a few niggles, and not enough instant low and mid range roll-on torque, for me.
Great bike! I came close to buying one of those and am still tempted. A friend of mine sold his before I had a chance to talk to him about it. I test rode one very briefly a few years ago and it is a bike I could still acquire at some point.I have a 2019 z900rs I bought new, put 15,000 miles on it with 0 issues. Just tires and oil changes. the Japanese apparently understand and respect quality control much more than their European competitors. You might say their bikes are boring and have no soul but at least you can ride them without having to replace cylinders at 6,000 miles.