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So I traded my '20 Super Adventure S on a 824 mile '20 Super Duke GT on Saturday and today ( Tuesday) it is SNOWING heavily and has been doing so for about 4 hours! I'm scheduled to pick up the SDGT on Thursday and the dealership is 78 miles away necessitating driving the SAS up there and returning home with the SDGT. The dealer principal, an old friend of mine, spoke today and joked whether I needed to have him put snow tires on the SDGT. I have to laugh because the last April snowfall in St Louis was in 1983. Of course I'm still anxiously waiting to get the bike home but patience may have to overrule emotion at this juncture. You gotta appreciate the humorous aspect here. Pics and comparisons to follow.
 

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We got a couple inches last night.....but we're in Buffalo, no big surprise for us. Just hope the highway departments don't salt the heck out of the roads.
 

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So I traded my '20 Super Adventure S on a 824 mile '20 Super Duke GT on Saturday and today ( Tuesday) it is SNOWING heavily and has been doing so for about 4 hours! I'm scheduled to pick up the SDGT on Thursday and the dealership is 78 miles away necessitating driving the SAS up there and returning home with the SDGT. The dealer principal, an old friend of mine, spoke today and joked whether I needed to have him put snow tires on the SDGT. I have to laugh because the last April snowfall in St Louis was in 1983. Of course I'm still anxiously waiting to get the bike home but patience may have to overrule emotion at this juncture. You gotta appreciate the humorous aspect here. Pics and comparisons to follow.
Keep us posted - Can I ask why the switch from SAS to SDR? I was seriously considering a SAS but decided on SDGT (lower seat height) but ultimately ended up with a SDR that I’ve outfitted with waterproof/lockable storage.
 

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2cati, A fair question that doesn't have a clear answer. I was looking to replace my Multistrada 1260 with a new Pikes Peak Multistrada back in early March but the Ducati was just too much money for me. But the dealer sells both Ducati and KTM and offered a strong deal on a 2020 Super Adventure S so I bit. Now I always have been more of a sport touring kinda guy so when my friend took in a 2020 SDGT at his dealership with only 824 miles on it and I even knew the previous owner what else could I do??!! An old friend of mine said it well, " As long as there are motorcycles I'll never have to worry about being addicted to opioids!"
 

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Ha! Thanks for the reply - Keep us posted as I would like to get your impressions after you’ve have it a while! There are many more worse addictions than motorcycles - so I tell my wife like mistresses, gambling, drugs .... ;-)

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So I traded my '20 Super Adventure S on a 824 mile '20 Super Duke GT on Saturday and today ( Tuesday) it is SNOWING heavily and has been doing so for about 4 hours! I'm scheduled to pick up the SDGT on Thursday and the dealership is 78 miles away necessitating driving the SAS up there and returning home with the SDGT. The dealer principal, an old friend of mine, spoke today and joked whether I needed to have him put snow tires on the SDGT. I have to laugh because the last April snowfall in St Louis was in 1983. Of course I'm still anxiously waiting to get the bike home but patience may have to overrule emotion at this juncture. You gotta appreciate the humorous aspect here. Pics and comparisons to follow.
I just love the SD !! Congrats
 

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Ha!g Thanks for the reply - Keep us posted as I would like to get your impressions after you’ve have it a while! There are many more worse addictions than motorcycles - so I tell my wife like mistresses, gambling, drugs .... ;-)
Whats wrong with Mistresses gambling and drugs?. (i bet if i get her stoned ill get a root) If your going to have a vice, may swell have the 4 and add MC's.
 

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I recently went from a 2016 Super Adventure T to a 2020 SDGT; The differences in the engine characteristics and handling is very pronounced. My SDGT engine wants to GOOOO all the time where my previous SA was willing to cruise along. Something to do with different flywheels, valves, etc. Handling department was night and day difference. The SDGT feels much more precise. Definitely more sporty. It goes where you point it without much of a fuss.
 

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Whats wrong with Mistresses gambling and drugs?. (i bet if i get her stoned ill get a root) If your going to have a vice, may swell have the 4 and add MC's.
Hahaha. Absolutely nothing......if your are single or in an open relationship. If not and you have material assets.....your lifestyle could change dramatically!
 

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I am such a neophyte in many ways relating to KTM in general and the Super Duke GT in particular. It is my first non-cruiser in about 20 years. I was on a Honda Valkyrie Tourer from 1998 to 2017. Then when we decided on a sportier ride to enjoy the twisties in Arizona...all I knew was it was going to be a BMW, Ducati, or Aprila or whatever. Then I stumbled on to the Super Duke R and that lead me to the Super Duke GT. Consumed every article or video that I could find...then an unescorted 2-up test ride with my wife and we were sold.
We picked up our new '17 in Jan 2017. Traded that on a '19 in Sep of 2019 and in Oct it was totaled in a parking lot hit and run. Picked up our current '20 SDGT in Jan of 2020 and I am at 18,400 miles and still loving it. I cant nit pick it because I have nothing to compare it to and that is okay. I have a guy that teaches MSF with me that may be interested in my 2020, depending on what they do for the Gen 3 Super Duke GT...thanks for letting me ramble a little...
 

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Two inches of snow on Tuesday and yet Thursday it was 38 F starting out but clear, sunny and dry so I went for it. Now for first impression comparisons with the 2020 Super Adventure S that was traded in. Rider basics: 6', 210 lbs., 35" sleeve and 32" inseam, 50+ years experience on a multitude of bikes.

The very first thing noticed when initially sitting on the SDGT was that it seemed quite small compared to the SAS. Not cramped just a lot smaller. The "new" SDGT came equipped with optional bar risers ( recommended ), and a Corbin seat ( highly recommended...more on this later) so the seating position is comfortable with the reach to the bars not too leaned over and surprisingly close to the SAS's upright position. Your knees are bent a bit more with your legs tucked slightly back on the SDGT but not at all uncomfortably so. Wind protection was similar for both ( the SDGT also came with a Puig screen) with the adjustment on the SAS being easier while moving ( the SDGT requires that you use your left hand to move the top of the shield forward and then pull up or down to adjust, not as simple as rotating the knob on either side of the shield to raise or lower). Both bikes are tall but the height winner is the SAS. I am not going to regret having to carry a small stepladder with me while on the SAS!!! ...joking of course. The SDGT is MUCH better height-wise with the Corbin seat and also much improved over the 2 X 6 wrapped in Saran wrap standard seat comfort-wise. I am able to flatfoot the SDGT but could not do that on the SAS even with the 32" inseam.

Performance and Handling: Both bikes are quick, but the SDGT is fast! However, the SAS "feels" as if it accelerates stronger in a 6th gear roll on from 60 mph or so. I did notice that the SAS was showing right at 70 mph at 4000 rpm and was getting 45 mpg whereas the SDGT was showing 74-75 mph at 4000 rpm while getting 50 mpg! And the SDGT did not appear to "like" 6th gear for acceleration purposes. Maybe a gearing difference. The SDGT is really nimble and corners with rail-like precision. But with the Angel GT tires and the 190 on the rear ( compared with the 170 on the SAS) you would expect this to be so.

Bits and Pieces: The SDGT dash screen is adjustable angle-wise so that it can be made to fit the rider's view point. And under the seat believe it or not is room for the tool kit and then some whereas on the SAS....no tool kit and not even room for a single cigarette or whatever which always struck me as odd for an "adventure" bike? The pegs on the SDGT seem smallish ( remember the SAS comparison) and finally the exhaust on the SDGT is sweet sounding from the get go. Absolutely no need to think of changing anything. Heated grips are standard on the SDGT but still a PITA to engage...you must go into the info center to turn them on and adjust the levels. Oh and this was surprising, the insurance cost on the SDGT is $230 per year less than the SAS..must be the off road thing. The center stand is standard on the SAS, but not available on the SDGT which makes adjusting and cleaning the chain somewhat interesting.

If you are a backroad carver with touring intentions, as am I, the SDGT will be bags of fun with its' 173+ hp. Or if you want something that can do limited off road runs and yet performs quite admirably on twisties with an honest 160 hp the SAS will out run most if not all other adventure bikes while adding its' own unique approach.

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2cati, A fair question that doesn't have a clear answer. I was looking to replace my Multistrada 1260 with a new Pikes Peak Multistrada back in early March but the Ducati was just too much money for me. But the dealer sells both Ducati and KTM and offered a strong deal on a 2020 Super Adventure S so I bit. Now I always have been more of a sport touring kinda guy so when my friend took in a 2020 SDGT at his dealership with only 824 miles on it and I even knew the previous owner what else could I do??!! An old friend of mine said it well, " As long as there are motorcycles I'll never have to worry about being addicted to opioids!"
Any chance you can share your thoughts on comparing 1260 Multi and SDGT? I've been looking for either Pikes Peak which is a bit over my budget or SDGT as of late.
 

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Any chance you can share your thoughts on comparing 1260 Multi and SDGT? I've been looking for either Pikes Peak which is a bit over my budget or SDGT as of late.
I can certainly give it a shot. Starting out, I liked the 1260. I've owned five Ducatis and really enjoyed the "character" of the Italian bikes. As I mentioned earlier, I was actually looking to purchase a 2020 Pikes Peak when I impulse-bought the 2020 KTM SAS. The price differential for the Duc was going to be over 7K more! And that was without the bags.

I actually had previously traded my 1200 MS for the "18 1260 MS and if you decide to go this route go for the 1260....much more user friendly motor. The 1260 runs without the stumbles at lower idle rpm running ( running in first down a long gravel driveway for example). It pulls cleanly and strong up through the rev range without too much vibration ( remember both bikes KTM or Duc ARE twins after all). The 160 hp of the Duc is more than adequate, however, the 175 hp of the KTM ROCKS!! The seating position of the Multi was really quite good, however the Pikes Peak will sit quite differently so be aware. My SDGT came with the Corbin seat ( see pics) and the bar risers already installed and it really makes the bike sit much like the Multi with its' upright seating position and comfortable reach to the bars. If it had not come this way, the bar risers would be my "must have" change. Seats are such a personal item...what I hate you may adore. But I do recall that the seat on the SAS was akin to a 2 X 6 board wrapped in Saran wrap! In fairness though it only had 800 miles on it and it may have gotten better with some time.

I mentioned "character" earlier and I have found that the SDGT has loads. The handling is superb. Let me say that again, the handling is superb. It will run with most "sportbike" types over the twisties without drama all while delivering mid 40s mpg. The shift assist is at least as good as the Duc's and perhaps as good as that of the BMWs I've had. And both brakes, front and rear, are quite strong without being grabby. You should know that this is not necessarily the case with the Duc. ALL of the Ducatis I've owned had rear brakes that were useless....really.

Most importantly for either brand is to have a knowledgeable, professional dealer. I really can't overemphasize this. Even though both bikes have good service intervals ( edge here goes to Ducati) these are not machines that appreciate non-professional twiddling if you know what I mean. Now I've written more than I intended and probably have left unanswered many of your questions, so feel free to ask specifics if needed.
 

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Thanks a lot for the detailed response. It’s really helpful. A couple of follow up questions if I may :) you mentioned that pikes peak has a different seating position. It was a surprise to me. Is it more aggressive? I expected the same frame and the bike geometry.

Another thing to pick your brain about SDGT 19-20. As I understand it’s based on SDR 2 platform which seems to be regarded as good but not excellent. As I see SDR 3 is praised for its stiffer frame land more precise handling. Do you notice these shortcomings in SDGT?
 

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As I remember the Pikes Peak had less wind protection and the reach to the bars was more aggressive than the Multi. Maybe more Monster like. The Multi comes off as a much better sports touring choice. I had the 1260 S model so the suspensions were similar as were the larger rotors and calipers. I'm afraid that I am not aware of the exact differences between the SDR 2 vs 3 platforms in my experience so I'll come up short there. I can only attest to the capabilities of the 2020 SDGT.
 
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