I have not used BT-Moto. And I don't have a 1390. LOL!

I'm just throwing this out there in case you don't know about it.

I just got an OpenFlash Tablet v3 from OpenFlash Performance. I have used it to read my stock ECU and upload the files to Shiv (the man, at OFP). He is now making me a custom flash for my '24 SD GT. As soon as he gets that done and loaded into my account, I will use the OFT to flash my ECU with the new mapping.

They do have the same thing for the 1390.

It's really easy to use. Download the PowerGate app to your smartphone.

The OFT v3 is just a puck-like device with one big connector on one side. Connect it to the bike's diagnostic port under the rider's seat using the special cable that comes with the OFT. Connect an alligator clip to the positive battery terminal, and then do everything in the PowerGate app.

Once it's hooked up and booted up, you read the stock ECU and it uploads to your account in the Cloud. If they already have a map file for your specific calibration, then you can just download it and write it to your ECU. If they don't, then you have to wait for them to take your stock map that you uploaded and make a custom file for you. They will email you when that is done. Then you can hook up the OFT again, run PowerGate on your phone, and flash the new map to your ECU.

It's probably the same way BT-Moto works, but I don't know.

I uploaded my GT map last Friday. Shiv emailed me that he's having to build my new map from scratch, so I should have it later this week. Wouldn't surprise me if mine is the first Euro 5 GT they've done a map for, but I don't know. I suspect they have been doing all Super Duke R's.

Anyway, it's just another option to consider.

KTM – OpenFlash Performance (openflashtablet.com)

 

You explained everything very well and beautifully. I read many such reviews and also bought an openflash tablet 3. But I was not happy for long.... until I went to the dealer. Before going to the dealer, I installed the stock file (as openflash says). The dealer updated the engine control unit for me because the motorcycle is new and there was a malfunction. When I came home and wanted to install stage 1, I could not. Openflash support offered me to pay 300 dollars to reset the license..... I am simply shocked. I sent a letter that this is unfair and that the dealer has the right to update the motorcycle control units as much as they want because it is under warranty and I am not going to pay 300 dollars each time. There is no response from openflash support yet. I will wait a little longer and create a topic about my case and a video on YouTube. I hope that openflash will make the right decision....🤬

 

Thanks for the information StuartV... Always a good thing to have options !!!
Sounds similar To BT-Moto. They sell you a handheld device with your purchase, you can store you original map in the unit as well as others that you may want such as the stage 1+ they offer as well as race maps. You can switch back to the original or any other map at your convenience. Maybe check them out here for additional information.
These folks are based here in the US and have maps that are legal in 50 states as well as others.
Something I may look into once passed the first service...

2024 KTM Super Duke R - BT Moto Stage 1 with Handheld | BT Moto

2024 KTM Super Duke R / S 1390: Maximize with our Stage 1+ flash. Unlock power, enhance rideability, plug-and-play convenience!

bt-moto.com

 

Thanks for the information StuartV... Always a good thing to have options !!!
Sounds similar To BT-Moto. They sell you a handheld device with your purchase, you can store you original map in the unit as well as others that you may want such as the stage 1+ they offer as well as race maps. You can switch back to the original or any other map at your convenience. Maybe check them out here for additional information.
These folks are based here in the US and have maps that are legal in 50 states as well as others.
Something I may look into once passed the first service...

2024 KTM Super Duke R - BT Moto Stage 1 with Handheld | BT Moto

2024 KTM Super Duke R / S 1390: Maximize with our Stage 1+ flash. Unlock power, enhance rideability, plug-and-play convenience!

bt-moto.com

Yep. Sounds just like the OFT. @Shiv@OpenFlash is also based here in the U.S..

I don't care about 50-state legal stuff. My state doesn't have inspections and I already did the SAS/charcoal canister delete on my bike. I just want my bike to run the best it can.

I already have the OpenFlash unit. I'm just waiting to receive my map for the bike so I can load it and go riding. It runs great now. If I didn't have any option to make it better, I would be happy living with it just like it is. But, the low end fueling could be improved and I am definitely looking forward to that. If I also get some midrange improvements that make it easier to wheelie off just the throttle that will also make me even happier...

I already had my first service done. After I receive the map from Shiv, I will also be able to switch back and forth between the stock map and the map he gives me. And I already inquired with my tech at my dealer, asking "if I got my bike re-flashed, would there be any issues with my warranty later if I have a problem?" The tech said no problem at all. I mean, we talked at more length about it than exactly that, but the gist was that I didn't need to worry about my warranty if I flash the ECU. Especially if I flash it back to stock before bringing it in to the dealer for any reason.

 

Which is the better solution? It sounds like both use the same approach. I'm past the rapid bike EVO piggy back. My priority is to improve low end fueling and rideability. Extra top end power is just a bonus.
I have a 23 SDGT with the stock can and arrow cat delete pipe. All stock intake.

 

Sounds like both may be good solutions. I have done most of my research on the BT-Moto, so for now at least that is the direction I am leaning. Not to say I may change my mind but their website pretty much explains the system along with the video. BT-Moto states to wait until first service is completed prior to uploading.
Go to the link I provided and go through all of the info on the page.

 

I'm well past my first service, new main wire harness and all! 😂

See other post.

Thanks!

 

When you add the BT-Moto to your cart, it says this, and you have to accept it:

“By purchasing, I acknowledge that very short and open / free flowing exhaust are prone to stalling. Using a DB Killer/Baffle will generally fix these stalling/lumpy idle issues but may not be perfect. A longer less open exhaust will result in better idle stability and less stalling.”

Curious if people have experienced this stalling. I’m running a V3 Mini, which is quite short and open, although I’ve got the dB killer inserted.

 

Interesting... Have you called them to discuss this at any length ?
I plan on calling them before I purchase, have several questions and will now add this one.

 

I emailed this question:

"I have a ‘21 Super Duke. [. . .] I run an Austin Racing v3 Mini 200mm slip-on with dB killer on an otherwise stock exhaust. Should I be concerned about the stalling issue?"

and this was the response:

"Potentially, I don't hear about it much any more but it might just be because I have that disclaimer. But I tune a lot of these and don't hear many stalling complaints anymore, but yes the shorter the system the less back pressure/stable idle."

I followed up with the question of whether the butterfly valve could be activated at idle to solve this problem if it arose, but have not heard back (it was only about 15 minutes ago).

 

Also, people seem to report good results from the OpenFlash Tablet system. I am on the fence about which to get. The problem is that almost no one will have tried both, so comparisons are non-existent. You pay your money and you take your chance.

I'm actually sitting with two loaded shopping carts, wondering which one I should pull the trigger on.

 

I hear ya on that...
I have looked into both and my opinion... I would go BT, they seem to a fairly good amount of information on their site as to OpenFlash not quite as extensive. Probably both do a good job. I also think that customer support may lean the way of BT ??? We'll see....
How long did it take them to get back you once you emailed them ?

 

About 30 minutes the first time and 20 the second. Fast I'd say.

 

Wow, I would say very quick response's... That's one of the most important thing's IMO....

 

See post #20

 

What the BLANK.... It seems you have had another issue as well, if I remember correctly ? I do hope you get it straightened out quickly.
How responsive have they been when you reach out ?
Thanks for the info, making my decision easier on which direction I will go.

 

Shiv personally called me after I notified him. He went into the Powergate program and re-registered the device. Just loaded the Stage 2 for the Akra so we'll see how she goes.

 

I'll be receiving my BT-moto tuner today. I'm eager to get a flash that makes the bike more enjoyable to ride, especially in the slow speed throttle-control area. I really enjoy my 23 SDGT, but have always been disappointed in its snappy, abrupt, jerky ... low speed manners.

 

Keep us updated on how everything goes. I will be doing my 620 mile service next week, so I will be ready to move forward with the purchase.

 

I read my stock configuration file and uploaded it to the server. Now I await my custom tune!
It was no problem. I watched the videos on their site and repeated everything without any issues.

 

Very nice, sounds like everything went as planned ? Let us know how long it takes to get the tune back from BT, and of course how the tune works after install.

 

I was pleasantly surprised this morning after I received an email stating I had a file ready to download!
Of course, I dropped everything and flashed my ECU right away. It went very smoothly and I had zero problems.
It took about 10 minutes to read the stock configuration and the same to write the modified file.
I'll take it for a ride later today after the temps rise a little.

After the flash process completed, the rider display looked normal and at the end of the process, it asks if you want to clear fault codes.
I did, and had no CEL after the subsequent start.

 

I took it out for a short test ride.
I can only say that it feels like a different bike now.
The engine braking is much less, the power delivery is much smoother throughout the rev range, especially noticeable in 2nd and 3rd when the front end wants to point skyward under acceleration.
Riding slowly is much more refined without the bucking and jerking. Overall, it's much more pleasurable to ride.

The difference from stock is quite dramatic.
My goal was to make the bike more enjoyable to ride, particularly to smooth out the throttle response.
It was achieved beyond my expectations.
I wasn't looking for squeezing out as much power as possible, although it does feel much better by my butt, so I won't be doing any dyno runs.

 

Fantastic to hear it was all and maybe more than you wanted. Getting my 1st service done on Wednesday and will be getting in touch with BT-Moto....
Thanks for the updates cskindt... Glad you jump in on this !!!

 

I flashed my 1390 with BTMOTO. Super fast shipping and great customer service. Uploaded my stock map and got my flashed map back in 3 hours or less. Their instructions are extremely detailed and basically dummy proof! Highly recommend BTMOTO.

 

Curious to see how you are liking the BT-Moto ECM Flash ?

 

1st service scheduled for this coming Wednesday, will contact BT-Moto this week the questions and order.

 

1st service now complete, time to call BT-Moto and get ready for the next upgrade....

 

Ordered the BT-Moto tuner today, paid the extra to get it expedited. Hopefully get everything ready by the weekend.

 

I thought about expediting my order, but put that money towards 2-day delivery.
They shipped the same day anyway.

 

Okay, received the handheld today. Read the ECU and uploaded to my files. Hoping to see the tune file back tomorrow. Fingers crossed !!!

 

Here is what I have to say about BT-Moto.... Purchasing & shipping A+++, Customer Service A+++. They do everything via email and they do respond in a very timely manner. All nothing but great to say.
Remember the 1390 was great before this stage 1 tune, this has made it ever better than it was.
First ride impressions:
Now for the stage 1 tune, remember this is all seat of the pants. Lower gears (1st, 2nd, & 3rd) all the things I felt in these gears is now gone, no more jerkiness in these gears. Super smooth through all gears and pulls very hard all the way through. Much better power delivery and very good in the area we ride most often (5000-6000 RPM). Quick shifter also seems much smoother than before, just seems to be more in sink and smooth. I did get 1 good strong pull on the road I ride and I was ???mph before I knew it. For now I must say it was worth it, more to come....

 

Quick update on the BT-Moto tune. Some may wonder if this would cancel out any functions on the bike. This has had no affect on anything what so ever. Everything functions just as they did prior to adding the tune. No issue's, no warning's, no warning lights and cruise control is good to go. I am finding it very difficult to cruise around (which it would do just fine) the bike is asking for it every time I get on. So much fun to ride this thing.

 

Anyone with the BTMoto tune care to give an update? Still happy with the purchase?

 

I sure would!

I am still very pleased with the purchase. I have no regrets, except I should have done it sooner and not wasted my time and money on the Rapid Bike Evo. The bike is just so much more manageable to ride, especially at lower speeds and turn-ins where the OEM lean fueling and over-aggressive engine braking created nearly dangerous conditions with the choppy abrupt throttle/engine control.

And there is a lot more fun to be had at higher RPMs, too. In most of the lower gears (I forget which ones, I think up to 5th) you have full power. KTM chops the power output.

I just got back from a 1-night trip up to Yankton, SD and back. It was just over 500-miles round trip.

Last week
I rode down to see the world's largest ball of sisal twine.
Haha -- the things that entertain you when you get old!

I also have a '23 SD, but the GT version.
If your seriously considering the BTMoto Tune and on the fence, just get it, you won't be disappointed.

 

New member here, still need to introduce myself. Following this thread with interest as last week I bought a new/leftover 2023 SDGT, 5 miles on the odo from the dealer prep. First KTM, love it except it has strong surging at low to mid RPMs, especially difficult to ride on poor pavement.

It's been sitting for a couple years so battery is suspect, 12.9v resting though. Fresh gas didn’t help. Dropped it off at the dealers yesterday as it also threw up a "General Suspension malfunction" error, could be battery or software related, waiting to hear.

I come from many years of oilhead Boxer twins so am familiar with mild lean surging. If the surging persists after break-in, currently only 200 miles on it, I'll look into BT-Moto. Thx for all the info and nice spool of twine!

 

New member here, still need to introduce myself. Following this thread with interest as last week I bought a new/leftover 2023 SDGT, 5 miles on the odo from the dealer prep. First KTM, love it except it has strong surging at low to mid RPMs, especially difficult to ride on poor pavement.

It's been sitting for a couple years so battery is suspect, 12.9v resting though. Fresh gas didn’t help. Dropped it off at the dealers yesterday as it also threw up a "General Suspension malfunction" error, could be battery or software related, waiting to hear.

I come from many years of oilhead Boxer twins so am familiar with mild lean surging. If the surging persists after break-in, currently only 200 miles on it, I'll look into BT-Moto. Thx for all the info and nice spool of twine!

Congratulations on your SDGT! I also came from two GSAs before my SDGT. I had a 2003 GSA (the bumblebee) and a 2016 GSA. I liked both very much, but I was ready for something more exciting and street oriented.

My first impressions of the SDGT were exactly what yours are and many others, too.
It is extremely lean and difficult to ride smoothly at low speeds. Also having a much lighter flywheel exacerbates the choppy response. The GSs and especially GSAs have much more flywheel mass to help keep them smooth.

Here is my list of best-bang upgrades you'll appreciate and make you enjoy riding even more.

1. BTMoto Tune. I'm biased only because I have it and know it works well. Among many other benefits, your engine will run cooler. Let them know how your bike is set up. You may consider exhaust mods that could change the tune they configure for you. Don't waste your time and money on other fuel-management piggy back systems like the Rapid Bike EVO. My dealer actually recommened I get it tuned.
2. Sprocket sizing. I changed to 16/40 within 200 miles. KTM puts such a high ratio on it with the 17/38 sprockets that make it very tall, especially noticeable in pulling out in first gear and making sixth gear generally unusable below 80mph. 15/40 allows the original chain to be used.
3. Eliminate the exhaust servo control. Healtech makes a plug-in dongle that prevents an error from occurring if the flap gets stuck. This may even be your problem with the unrelated electronic warnings. When the flap is stuck or doesn't complete it's full travel, a code is thrown and all the electronic gadgetry gets disabled. The flap is only there to abate noise levels at low throttle positions. It does nothing for engine performance.
4. Consider doing a canisterectomy and SAS removal (for track use only). Rottweiler sells the items to complete the process. All this equipment is just a bunch of junk that takes up space and has no positive effect on performance.
5. Consider using a de-cat pipe (for track use only). This one works well. The cat stores so much heat and it radiates up through the engine and into your legs. It is noticeable, especially in warmer conditions. The stock exhaust can is a straight-through design so it will become louder if you don't install a decibel killer. They can be found cheaply from china, if desired.

Of course, you may want to go through break-in first and consider your relationship with your dealer if you choose to start modifying your bike during the warranty period. I didn't wait and began everything within the first 500 miles.