I was wondering if anyone has used BT-Moto for the ECM re-flash stage 1+ tuning with handheld ?
Any feedback would be fantastic.
Any feedback would be fantastic.
BT-Moto KTM 1390 Super Duke R Evo Stage 1+ Tune
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I forgot to add that there is a very noticeable reduction in engine braking too. It feels much more natural under deceleration and certainly is a factor in the better low-speed manners.
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That is a great point, glad to hear. They do not accept phone calls on Friday so will call them on Monday and get this going.
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You might try emailing them. I never spoke with them. I just went through email and their customer portal on their website.
So, you had a Rapid Bike Evo tuning module on the bike?
And now you have flashed the ECU with the BT-Moto tune?
Is the Rapid Bike module still on your bike?
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Yes, I had it on my bike soon after I bought it. Here's the story:
As soon as I rode the bike after I bought it last November, I was disappointed in its low speed manners. It's difficult to ride smoothly, somewhat because the engine internals are relatively light so it can accelerate quickly (by design and I like that), but mostly because of the awful factory tuning, presumably for emission control. I also removed the heat-source directly beneath the engine along with its exhaust valve and replaced the actuator with an ESE dongle, that eliminated a known problem that causes limp mode (the actuator).
I wanted to improve the fueling, so I bought the RB Evo hoping it would do the trick. I spent the cash and to much time farting around with the maps and installation and never really noticed an improvement in riding manners. At this point I still haven't thought about flashing the ECM at all.
It was my dealer that suggested an ECM flash after my bike was in the shop for almost three months. They learned about my feable atempt to improve the fueling and said I should just get it flashed. That's when I started to look into it and found this thread. I chose BTM because their product and business seems very professional and well thought out. And they responed very promptly to my email inquiries. I had no prior knowledge of them or the other tuner mentioned in this thread.
I completely removed everything related to RB and tuned it with BTM's modified file. My bike, engine-wise, is all stock except for an Arrow mid-pipe, and I removed the SAS and charcoal cansiter and their related solenoid valves and hoses. I have the Rotty dongles in place.
Do you want to buy a RB Evo? I'll sell it cheap!
So…. yes, yes, and no. Got it.Yes, I had it on my bike soon after I bought it. Here's the story:
As soon as I rode the bike after I bought it last November, I was disappointed in its low speed manners. It's difficult to ride smoothly, somewhat because the engine internals are relatively light so it can accelerate quickly (by design and I like that), but mostly because of the awful factory tuning, presumably for emission control. I also removed the heat-source directly beneath the engine along with its exhaust valve and replaced the actuator with an ESE dongle, that eliminated a known problem that causes limp mode (the actuator).
I wanted to improve the fueling, so I bought the RB Evo hoping it would do the trick. I spent the cash and to much time farting around with the maps and installation and never really noticed an improvement in riding manners. At this point I still haven't thought about flashing the ECM at all.
It was my dealer that suggested an ECM flash after my bike was in the shop for almost three months. They learned about my feable atempt to improve the fueling and said I should just get it flashed. That's when I started to look into it and found this thread. I chose BTM because their product and business seems very professional and well thought out. And they responed very promptly to my email inquiries. I had no prior knowledge of them or the other tuner mentioned in this thread.
I completely removed everything related to RB and tuned it with BTM's modified file. My bike, engine-wise, is all stock except for an Arrow mid-pipe, and I removed the SAS and charcoal cansiter and their related solenoid valves and hoses. I have the Rotty dongles in place.
Do you want to buy a RB Evo? I'll sell it cheap!
😂
No thanks on the RB. I already have an OpenFlash Tablet. I just haven’t gotten to install a tune yet. My bike has been in the shop too much.
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I thought about expediting my order, but put that money towards 2-day delivery.
They shipped the same day anyway.
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Maybe they got me on that one.... I also did the 2 Day shipping.
I just hope everything goes as smooth as it did for you !!!
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Haha, they almost got me too!Maybe they got me on that one.... I also did the 2 Day shipping.
I just hope everything goes as smooth as it did for you !!!
I'm sure you'll be happy with their tune, especially if any of your experiences riding were like mine.
Let us know how it goes!
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To get the numbers in the middle, fix up the throttle percentage in lower gears will be good....maybe great ??? The reviews seem pretty favorable.
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I'm not certain what you're asking.
I just told them how disappointed I was riding slowly in low gears and what a poor experience I had with RB. I also stated I wasn't happy with so much engine braking and I wanted nice smooth power delivery through the RPM range with the limiter opened to 11k.
My bike is all stock with only a de-cat pipe and an SAS and charcoal delete.
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Here is what I have to say about BT-Moto.... Purchasing & shipping A+++, Customer Service A+++. They do everything via email and they do respond in a very timely manner. All nothing but great to say.
Remember the 1390 was great before this stage 1 tune, this has made it ever better than it was.
First ride impressions:
Now for the stage 1 tune, remember this is all seat of the pants. Lower gears (1st, 2nd, & 3rd) all the things I felt in these gears is now gone, no more jerkiness in these gears. Super smooth through all gears and pulls very hard all the way through. Much better power delivery and very good in the area we ride most often (5000-6000 RPM). Quick shifter also seems much smoother than before, just seems to be more in sink and smooth. I did get 1 good strong pull on the road I ride and I was ???mph before I knew it. For now I must say it was worth it, more to come....
Remember the 1390 was great before this stage 1 tune, this has made it ever better than it was.
First ride impressions:
Now for the stage 1 tune, remember this is all seat of the pants. Lower gears (1st, 2nd, & 3rd) all the things I felt in these gears is now gone, no more jerkiness in these gears. Super smooth through all gears and pulls very hard all the way through. Much better power delivery and very good in the area we ride most often (5000-6000 RPM). Quick shifter also seems much smoother than before, just seems to be more in sink and smooth. I did get 1 good strong pull on the road I ride and I was ???mph before I knew it. For now I must say it was worth it, more to come....
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Quick update on the BT-Moto tune. Some may wonder if this would cancel out any functions on the bike. This has had no affect on anything what so ever. Everything functions just as they did prior to adding the tune. No issue's, no warning's, no warning lights and cruise control is good to go. I am finding it very difficult to cruise around (which it would do just fine) the bike is asking for it every time I get on. So much fun to ride this thing.
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You explained everything very well and beautifully. I read many such reviews and also bought an openflash tablet 3. But I was not happy for long.... until I went to the dealer. Before going to the dealer, I installed the stock file (as openflash says). The dealer updated the engine control unit for me because the motorcycle is new and there was a malfunction. When I came home and wanted to install stage 1, I could not. Openflash support offered me to pay 300 dollars to reset the license..... I am simply shocked. I sent a letter that this is unfair and that the dealer has the right to update the motorcycle control units as much as they want because it is under warranty and I am not going to pay 300 dollars each time. There is no response from openflash support yet. I will wait a little longer and create a topic about my case and a video on YouTube. I hope that openflash will make the right decision....🤬
Well, that is a shock. I was fully expecting that I could do just as you reported if I ever needed to have a new flash from my dealer.
Please keep us updated.
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Of course. I'm shocked myself. I'll definitely update.
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I sure would!
I am still very pleased with the purchase. I have no regrets, except I should have done it sooner and not wasted my time and money on the Rapid Bike Evo. The bike is just so much more manageable to ride, especially at lower speeds and turn-ins where the OEM lean fueling and over-aggressive engine braking created nearly dangerous conditions with the choppy abrupt throttle/engine control.
And there is a lot more fun to be had at higher RPMs, too. In most of the lower gears (I forget which ones, I think up to 5th) you have full power. KTM chops the power output.
I just got back from a 1-night trip up to Yankton, SD and back. It was just over 500-miles round trip.
Last week
I rode down to see the world's largest ball of sisal twine.
Haha -- the things that entertain you when you get old!
I also have a '23 SD, but the GT version.
If your seriously considering the BTMoto Tune and on the fence, just get it, you won't be disappointed.
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