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The manual, on page 134, lists the following:

Front 36 PSI cold
Rear 42 PSI cold

BUT, no indication if that's for solo or solo with passenger.

Frankly, it looks like an error, in the manual.

Anyone have the correct baseline numbers for a solo rider on a 2016 1290r.

Looks like different model years had different recommend tire pressure.

Thanks!
It depends on the tires. If you stay with the TKC 80 you should be aware that the rear tire is rated at max psi cold of 34 psi. The front is rated at 39 psi.

Most people are putting too much air in the rear tire. The recommended pressure is way over max rated pressure for that rear tire.
 
Curious more on the tire pressure. The recommended is for max load so if I was to go through twistys with a passenger obviously not knee dragging but I still want max grip what's recommended then? Also curious about this I live in Central Cali where in the morning if I leave it can be either 75-85 all day vs some days I leave it'll be 80 and where I ride it's 95+ would removing tire pressure be recommended? I still have the stock tires and gonna need to replace mine soon just hit ~5k Miles. Besides rough riding and feeling grip limits how do you know what's a good tire pressure? For now my bike is set for 36 front and I believe 38 rear. This is because I ride with a passenger here and there and do twistys.
 
Cheers bounddy,

It's an art rather than a science (finding a good compromise between grip and mileage). I rode for decades doing what the tyre shop recommended..... and that was fine....... then I started to develop my own feeling for the settings as bikes became more responsive and lighter etc.

So all you can do is try a setting for a week then change..... until one day you find a pressure that just feels right. The beauty of the forum is that you can find out what others are having fun with and how they like it, so you can try their settings.

So there is never any "correct" setting for you in particular...... rather a range that may suit........ I found a video on the Blackbird forum that was worth watching........ I'll come back and add it soon........ (y)

Aaaaah....... Spartacus has already posted it......... (y)
 
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So if I want my Pirelli Angel GTs to last longer grip better, and comfortable haul around my 90kg, dhoule I set psi at lower than the recommended 36/42?

I must admit, I do seem more comfortable, and get better performance, and longer life at 34/38...hmmm...
 
Curious more on the tire pressure. The recommended is for max load so if I was to go through twistys with a passenger obviously not knee dragging but I still want max grip what's recommended then? Also curious about this I live in Central Cali where in the morning if I leave it can be either 75-85 all day vs some days I leave it'll be 80 and where I ride it's 95+ would removing tire pressure be recommended? I still have the stock tires and gonna need to replace mine soon just hit ~5k Miles. Besides rough riding and feeling grip limits how do you know what's a good tire pressure? For now my bike is set for 36 front and I believe 38 rear. This is because I ride with a passenger here and there and do twistys.
The max cold psi on the tire should be as high as you ever go. It will go up when the tire gets hot and that's okay. Just keep in mind that at high altitude a tire pressure gauge does not read correctly. At 10,000 feet it reads around 5 psi higher. So to get the correct max pressure at 10,000 feet set it 5 lbs higher than you want. At 5,000 cut that in half. A tire gauge reads correctly at sea level.

The TKC 80 rear tire I run 32 to 34. If the temp changes drastically you need to adjust. I always carry a compressor.

I just pit on a Dunlop rear tire today and it's rated for 41 psi. I'm running 34 to 38.

These tires can handle being low on pressure because they are pretty stiff. I would not over inflate and make a long highway ride that way. The center of the TKC 80 will wear out quick if you run over 34 psi.
 
Yes it can be tricky when you have extremes of altitude/air temps/weather..... Australia is mostly flat, and our alpine areas aren't over 1000m/3000ft.

I've ridden 20,000kms in the western half of the good ole USofA and it's easy to be 2 miles high several times a day, enduring snow storms, then hot sunny conditions down the other side......

A Michelin tyre technician once told a group of us that a tyre's compound works/feels best in a certain temperature range (compound temp, not air temp)..... so running too high a PSI can keep the compound too cold to work as designed.

I'm 80kg butt naked, so thats x2.2 = errr brain, 6.30am, arrrr 176 Lbs and it took only 1 week riding my 17GT to realize I didn't like the feel/grip at 36/42 on such a light powerful bike.

I admit to once being a tyre over-inflatererer in pre-internet times (late 70's longhair)....we followed the old myth - "buy sticky tyres and pump them up hard to get longer life". But riding mates still complained about unexplainable crashes. Then the influence of new friends who were licence'd club racers encouraged me to experiment - also specialized tyre fitting shops not aligned to brand name dealerships suggested better pressures for grip and longevity.

It's also wise to compare gauges to others to see if they are reading similarly. Gauges can read wrong, even from brand new!

PS the 400kg Harley 1340 Road Kings we rode didn't care what pressure we ran, so we put 38/40 in them - they were so heavy they never slipped.......... :LOL:....... pic 1 is at 75mph in 104F on the I-40 into Pheonix, and pic 2 tells it's own story.
 

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I was in Death Valley at the end of April and it was around 100f. I headed up and crossed the mountains into South Lake Tahoe. May 1st I was headed to Yosemite and had to turn around twice because of the road closing from the snow. Finally made it on US 50.
 
I run 40/42 in the gtl because the back end gets squirrely if it gets low. My sdr gets pushed harder, i'm always trying to chew the edge(still have a 1/2'' to go) so run a bit lower at 34-36f/36-38r and sometimes at 38 on the pr5 I will still feel the rear tire start to slide out on turns.
 
Cheers Steve59....... i get the same feeling with my 15,000km old R5 rear when I slip 38psi cold into it..... so I run 36psi max and even though it's at it's end of life it still feels grippy - keep in mind the Michelins are a Kevlar belted tyre vs say the steel belted Metzlers etc..... so Kevlar in the construction makes them run cooler anyway, and over inflating them just stops the compound from operating in it's optimum temperature zone.

My R5rear feels like :poop: at anything over 37psi ;) (i never put more than 36psi in the front for the same reason...... and oddly enough, the profile of the R5's means I still have a 10mm chicken strip of unused tyre on the rear, whereas, same rider, same roads, I was touching the edges of the Angel GT's ........ and they all wear the same size/profile stamp on the carcass o_O.

(y)
 

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The manual, on page 134, lists the following:

Front 36 PSI cold
Rear 42 PSI cold

BUT, no indication if that's for solo or solo with passenger.

Frankly, it looks like an error, in the manual.

Anyone have the correct baseline numbers for a solo rider on a 2016 1290r.

Looks like different model years had different recommend tire pressure.

Thanks!
I disabled my low tire warning gadget as I prefer to have much better traction than those higher pressures will afford me. I typically run 30 +/- 3 F and R, unless I'm just out cruising around, then I'll pump them up some more to save on wear.
 
No Such Thing As Correct Tyre Pressure

Well, that's an attention grabbing headline :laugh2:...... but it is true enough.

The owners handbook will quote the vehicle's maximum loaded pressures for solo unloaded use just because they are afraid of legal liability issues (eg 36F 42R).

Track guys will use lower (but not "too low") pressures like 32psi, because they ride on a closed racing circuit and can 'keep' their hot pressures consistently at optimum grip levels (eg they are prob 36psi hot anyway).

So stop writing about what is correct and start thinking about your climate & riding requirements and factor in the brand of tyre you are using...... not all tyres are happy at the same pressure the handbook recommends :wink2:.

I do not run "too low a pressure"...... I run a cold set pressure of 34psi F and 36psi R on my light (233kg wet) SDGT and that translates to hot pressure readings of +2 to 3psi after a good 5-10kms of warm-up on public roads. i ride solo only and for a long tour with panniers loaded I usually up the rear to 37/38psi from habbit and might run the front at 35-36 but it really doesn't have that much effect..... just gives a few more days touring before I need to check/top up (and accounts for cooler temps at altitude over the otherside of our Great Dividing Range......).

So if you think you need max 2up +luggage (ie set for the maximum load capacity of your bike) then fine - just be careful on wet roads if you are only solo + no luggage.

Your tyre will not collapse and dent a wheel rim with 34psi cold (ie 36psi hot) - though if you hit a bad enough pothole (one with "teeth") you may damage a rim/crash regardless of tyre pressure choice (depending on angle of hit/bike lean angle/depth of hole/etc).

Also, each brand of tyre has a temperature that gives optimum grip-life balance. A Michelin tech once told me for Pilot Road 4's I should be running with 35F & 37R..... he was correct as I have had safe wet weather grip and 20,000km tyre life for many many sets of PR4's on my Blackbird.

The SDGT with Angel GT's likes 34F & 36R for solo unloaded work here in the Aussie climate (I currently have 11,300kms and expect to get to 15,000kms before changing to PR5's). A mate over the ditch (in New Zealand) tossed his SDGT down the road due to 'too high pressures'..... he now runs 34f 36r and has no problems).

Others (on SDR's) run even lower pressures, but they are all over 30psi and they ride hard enough to heat them up and keep them in their optimum temp ranges...... I am a mere street-road rider and have to share the road with traffic so I compromise for wear and grip and feel (and I don't have snow/cold conditions unless I travel 2,000kms south.....:wink2:).

Don't forget the old days - cross ply tyres - the pressures used to be (if I can recall correctly) in the mid 20psi ranges........ so if you are a slacko riding around on tyres bulging at the side and squirming around with 20something psi...... then you have "too low pressures" and are in danger of tyre failure/bead separation/crashing.

Thanks for putting up with my raving rant eh? :grin2: hope it clears the issue for some, and stay rubber side down:wink2:

Ps The mention about the TPMS being inaccurate....... I'd be wary of the gauge you are comparing it with (I once had a gauge that was 8psi in error)....... to get around this I have three gauges - A "PCL" english made engraved stick type, a "Bluepoint" US made dial type and Michelin digital battery type..... they all agree with the TPMS (which naturally only reads hot pressure which correlates to +2 to +4psi depending on how fast and how long you have been riding before testing - eg 100kph+ will see +4psi over cold temp reading).

It's a personal choice but so long as you have pressure around the 32-36F and 34-38R mark you will be fine - obviously choose the higher range for 2up riding with luggage.

One thing to adapt to these days, tyres have more silica in them than in past decades so they offer great grip and long life without the old style need to run very hard maximum pressures on soft compound tyres...... in fact that may cause rapid wear.

Ps nearly forgot...... not all tyres are constructed the same - eg michelin PR1-2-3-4-5's are all Kevlar Belted Radials, whereas Metzler/Dunlop/Pirelli/etc are Steel Belted Radial's....... a kevlar belted tyre will run cooler than a steel belt radial (and last longer) but will take longer to heat up from a cold start........ choices choices..... no right or wrong.... just gotta select the right bike & tyre combo for the individual's needs/preference/etc........ easy eh ? :wink2:
Tire pressure fetish freak!! Hoorah
 
Really?

So you read the post and comprehended the content and context?.....

Notice when it was written...? Years ago.....:confused:

Think you've added value to the community since joining a couple of months ago? đź’¨

Many respected rider instructors cover TP in video's and prac sessions. Not rocket science, nor new tech.... known about it for most of my 50yrs riding, learning from my own disaster and pig headedness, and from faster guys.

You're welcome to disagree tho.....you might know more than me, and that's ok.....;).

Forum rules promote civility and respect - so thanks mate.....you're welcome 🤔....

(y)
 
REEEEEALLLY wish the TPMS thresholds could be rider-adjusted (rolls eyes HARD). I like to run my GT sportier since I run Sporty tires on it...but there's that damn warning message.... sigh.
Next visit to the Stealership will have me deactivate the monitoring altogether like I have on my R.
 
Really?

So you read the post and comprehended the content and context?.....

Notice when it was written...? Years ago.....:confused:

Think you've added value to the community since joining a couple of months ago? đź’¨

Many respected rider instructors cover TP in video's and prac sessions. Not rocket science, nor new tech.... known about it for most of my 50yrs riding, learning from my own disaster and pig headedness, and from faster guys.

You're welcome to disagree tho.....you might know more than me, and that's ok.....;).

Forum rules promote civility and respect - so thanks mate.....you're welcome 🤔....

(y)
Hooray lolol ha , twat
 
Hooray lolol ha , twat
Thanks mate,...(y)

Feel better now you got that off your chest.....:LOL:

Start working on post #4, but don't waste your angst on me, there's plenty more targets to go after in here.

I've "ignored" you, so do the same to me if you like and go play with the others.;)
 
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