[lolachampcar]

Data point from two weeks ago.... Tail light still plugged in and the bike starts normally.

 

[Rizzo]

Data point from two weeks ago.... Tail light still plugged in and the bike starts normally.

Never mind. I can’t read. Ignore this reply. I can’t figure out how to delete it.

 

[YSR50]

Question for you all. Will the bike with the Akro engine programing installed start if only half of the blinkers are disconnected?

Just to be sure, are these stock blinkers? If so, then as mentioned bike should not start with the Akro flash until you hook up your magic box or switch to certain sequential Leds

 

[why2kmax]

My understanding from a few months ago when I got the akra flash done and the delay relay installed was this.

When the akra flash first come out it was only looking at front indicators, then it was updated to look at front and rear indicators, now it's been updated again a few months ago and now it looks at tail light aswell.

So in theory to start the bike without the delay relay installed you should have to have factory front and rear indicators disconnected and tail light disconnected.

That makes sense then why my taillight was also disconnected. In my case I had turned the bike ON with everything disconnected, hooked up the tail light and the rear blinkers and then tried to start the bike. OF course it started because I first turned it on with everything disconnected. IT started repeatedly.

Later I realized this and went back and tried again with the rear blinkers and tail light connected and it gave me the blinker error message. It wouldnt start. I disconnected just the blinkers, turned it off, back on, and it DID start up with the tail light still connected. Regardless that confirms I DO have some version of the Akro flash so thats what was most important. Appreciate all who responded.
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[m.chrysanthus]

That makes sense then why my taillight was also disconnected. In my case I had turned the bike ON with everything disconnected, hooked up the tail light and the rear blinkers and then tried to start the bike. OF course it started because I first turned it on with everything disconnected. IT started repeatedly.

Later I realized this and went back and tried again with the rear blinkers and tail light connected and it gave me the blinker error message. It wouldnt start. I disconnected just the blinkers, turned it off, back on, and it DID start up with the tail light still connected. Regardless that confirms I DO have some version of the Akro flash so thats what was most important. Appreciate all who responded.
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I just had mine flashed a few weeks ago on my 2020 Gen 3, already had the magic box installed so I’m no help with the blinkers. But my tail/brake light work with the flash I had done. No need for it to be disconnected.

 

[lolachampcar]

Just to be sure, are these stock blinkers? If so, then as mentioned bike should not start with the Akro flash until you hook up your magic box or switch to certain sequential Leds

To be exact, the SDR "looks" for blinkers in each of the four corners by seeing if there is a "blinker" sized load at that location.

This test can be fooled by putting a delay relay in place which disconnects completely all four corners for a certain amount of time after the key is switched on (power is applied). Once the time has expired, the delay, the relay closes and connects all four blinkers. They then function normally.

You can also put in LED blinkers that draw low amounts of current below the threshold of a "blinker" that KTM is looking for. There is a lot more here #34

The low current LED blinkers can be sequential but do not need to be. The above thread has examples (with links) of non-sequential LED lamps that work.

You can also take LED blinkers with current limiting printed circuit boards in the cable and change the current set resistor on those boards to drop the current they draw below the threshold of being seen by the SDR. Near as I can tell, the 1.7 ohm resistor needs to be more like a 3 ohm resistor but I have yet to test this.

Hope this helps.

 

[why2kmax]

Just to be sure, are these stock blinkers? If so, then as mentioned bike should not start with the Akro flash until you hook up your magic box or switch to certain sequential Leds

Yes they are the stock blinkers and the bike does not start with them connected.

 

[why2kmax]

Wiring in a magic box. Can someone tell/show me (pref with a pic) where the RIGHT FRONT turn signal connectors are. I assume they are on the right side of the bike but I cant see anything resembling them anywhere. Are they under the Tank? (I hope not). I had HOPED the tech that disconnected them when they put the Akro exhaust on would have left them where I could easily get them knowing I had to wire in the magic box. I got the left side easy, but no clue where the right side is. Everything I find on Youtube or websites has the right side done already and they show you how to do the left side. Am I blind? Appreciate any help
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[lolachampcar]

Just swapped my turn signals for lower power ones that are not seen as "blinkers" on the 23 SDR EVO and thus work. I had to pull the tank and air box to get to the rubber (or rubber like) container for connectors on the right side. I believe I also had to pull the exhaust recirculating solenoid as well but do not hold me to that.

Yep, it is a pain (at least on the 23 SDR).

 

[DaveNZ]

Just swapped my turn signals for lower power ones that are not seen as "blinkers" on the 23 SDR EVO and thus work. I had to pull the tank and air box to get to the rubber (or rubber like) container for connectors on the right side. I believe I also had to pull the exhaust recirculating solenoid as well but do not hold me to that.

Yep, it is a pain (at least on the 23 SDR).

Ive had to replace both front indicators, both died at different times. Pain to get at aye, removing plastics and the tank. While i was in there i cleaned the air filter. And it was nice to see the air box was spotlessly clear.

 

[why2kmax]

Just swapped my turn signals for lower power ones that are not seen as "blinkers" on the 23 SDR EVO and thus work. I had to pull the tank and air box to get to the rubber (or rubber like) container for connectors on the right side. I believe I also had to pull the exhaust recirculating solenoid as well but do not hold me to that.

Yep, it is a pain (at least on the 23 SDR).

Thats what I was afraid of. Mine is a 23 as well. Maybe I will just ride with 3 blinkers LOL Any hidden gems to watch out for pulling the tank?

 

[lolachampcar]

FYI, pull the intake tubes out with the airbox bottom half (pull them out after and attach them to the airbox bottom) as it is darn near impossible to attach the tubes to the lower half if you leave them in the bike.

Ask me how I know. I actually had to go read the manual if you can believe that

 

[DaveNZ]

FYI, pull the intake tubes out with the airbox bottom half (pull them out after and attach them to the airbox bottom) as it is darn near impossible to attach the tubes to the lower half if you leave them in the bike.

Ask me how I know. I actually had to go read the manual if you can believe that

I got mine back in, wasn't easy, im a patient man tho, one or 2 "fuk" but got it done, worst thing was, i didn't need to remove the airbox another "Fukit"

 

[why2kmax]

Done. Knowing the signals were in the rubber pouch on the right side (like the left) was what I needed. I unbolted the tank and lifted it on the right side enough to get into the pouch and find the disconnected blinkers. The male end was SHORT and I barely was able to get it connected to the magic box harness but I did it. All works now. Thanks to everyone who commented and who contributed to this thread sharing your knowledge. and Shoutout to @kmanou for building and selling the Mbox and the harnesses. Lifesaver for non electrical types like me.

 

[mikijovic]

hello,

i make this linkpipe and akrapovic can so it wil fit on the original evo system

I have been searcing for something like this. Will this link pipe be able to fit the original (standard) can with the evo system. I need this so I can mount it to pass on noise level when I take the bike to annual vehicle registration. And after that take it out.
Thank you!

 

[vzarahaulingllc]

My understanding from a few months ago when I got the akra flash done and the delay relay installed was this.

When the akra flash first come out it was only looking at front indicators, then it was updated to look at front and rear indicators, now it's been updated again a few months ago and now it looks at tail light aswell.

So in theory to start the bike without the delay relay installed you should have to have factory front and rear indicators disconnected and tail light disconnected.

Yes it doesn't make ****in sense

 

[vzarahaulingllc]

I bought some box from a guy in eBay in England and he don't respond. He has four pictures for instructions, but when you get to the rear lights and turn signal, there's four plug-ins for the turn signals but only one plug-in for the existing turn signal
. Each of the two sets have one plug with one wire and a single plug with a single wire

 

[steve59]

pretty simple.

 

[lolachampcar]

The need to address blinkers is tied to the KTM supplied (by the dealer) "Akrapovic" mapping which is installed along with the full A exhaust.

Use Open Flash Tablet (or other) mapping and you do not have to address the blinkers. From my experience, the Open Flash Tablet solution has much better mid range and throttle response than the KTM provided mapping. I've run both back to back.

If you want to use the KTM supplied mapping, you can use blinkers that draw less current so they look like an open bulb or you can put a delay box in that leaves the blinkers physically disconnected for a period after the key is turned on (when the ECU is doing the blinker bulb test) then reconnects them after the POST bulb test. Basically, it is a four circuit delay relay.

 

[KTM_R1lgd]

So made fast whit paint diagram: Maybe clears up my writings
So the new ground wires connect´s to relays "Normally Open" pin

And the Akras sound is just soo gooood... low at the begining and screaming when high revs. Just awesome
View attachment 95646

Hi KTM forum
Does anyone know how the wiring diagram works for the 1390?

The issue I’m trying to solve is that the rear taillight, brake light and indicator are integrated and use a common ground wire.

So it seems the ground cannot be intercepted as for the 1290 which has a seperate ground for each indicator. If intercepting the ground then the bike throws a tallight error.